Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/God of War: Blood & Metal
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. v/r - TP 17:33, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: Not notable. What relevant information there is already at God of War (series). Definately not WP:NOT#IINFO. Better suited to a fan page. Thebladesofchaos (talk) 07:33, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The gist may be able to be merged to the main page God of War (series). After all, why allow this article to exist by itself when standard practice is to incorporate small efforts like this into a main article, a la Vagrant Story ([1])? Thebladesofchaos (talk) 07:39, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't know that that practice is "standard" so much as "the usual thing when the sub-topic isn't notable in itself", but even if it is, AfD isn't really the right place to address it. The main thing that AfD is for is examining notability, and the main tool we have for examining that is the WP:GNG. If what you really mean is to be proposing a merge, AfD isn't the place to bring those; merge discussions are normally handled on the article's talk page, and if consensus there supports them, are executed by integrating the material from the merged article and then converting it to a redirect, not deleting it. There's no reason you can't propose a merge if this AfD nomination is closed as a keep, but I'd wait until it's done in any event to avoid confusing the process. —chaos5023 (talk) 11:57, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- In response to the Vagrant Story, that is the game's soundtrack, not a compilation of songs written by outside artist that do not appear in any of the games whatsoever (by outside, I mean bands who did not compose any of the games music). Merging could be done after this process here is finished, however, that's going to clutter up that already huge article. JDC808 (talk) 16:46, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- —chaos5023, I agree. I can also allay JDC808's concerns as a happy compromised can be reached. If it can be done for an article such as Vagrant Story (irrespective of content), then it can be done here. It would just be case of using the most relevant information. Thebladesofchaos (talk) 00:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't know that that practice is "standard" so much as "the usual thing when the sub-topic isn't notable in itself", but even if it is, AfD isn't really the right place to address it. The main thing that AfD is for is examining notability, and the main tool we have for examining that is the WP:GNG. If what you really mean is to be proposing a merge, AfD isn't the place to bring those; merge discussions are normally handled on the article's talk page, and if consensus there supports them, are executed by integrating the material from the merged article and then converting it to a redirect, not deleting it. There's no reason you can't propose a merge if this AfD nomination is closed as a keep, but I'd wait until it's done in any event to avoid confusing the process. —chaos5023 (talk) 11:57, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The gist may be able to be merged to the main page God of War (series). After all, why allow this article to exist by itself when standard practice is to incorporate small efforts like this into a main article, a la Vagrant Story ([1])? Thebladesofchaos (talk) 07:39, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: There is no reason to delete this article. Its information is verifiable with sources. There's more information on this page than the series page. This page was made so that the series page would not get cluttered with its information. Also, in response to the WP:NOT#IINFO above, how exactly does that apply to this particular article? (JDC808's comment).
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) MrKIA11 (talk) 01:05, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I don't believe the existing references in the article demonstrate notability due to lack of independence and/or reliability. But, a quick source review (the "news" link above in particular) shows that there is probably enough coverage in actual independent reliable sources to support notability. Whether the article content is "too fannish" or whatever is, as always (yet it keeps appearing in AfD noms) irrelevant to a deletion debate. —chaos5023 (talk) 01:21, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete - or merge back to the series. There is no critical reception shown for this album, which is typically the benchmark for spinning a game album out from a series/game article. WP:NALBUMS states that articles with little more than a track listing can be merged back to the parent, so I'm okay with that too. --Teancum (talk) 12:38, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.